Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Icon Solar is a great company if you are thinking about going solar. But are they the right fit for you? Our guides gives you all you need to know to make a decision. Expert Advice...First off, let me say that I am brand new to flintlock hunting. I have been hunting my entire life and been around guns my entire life. I have hunted with in line muzzle loaders for many years. I bought the Pa. Pellet for the simple reason that it gave me the ability to hunt for a few more weeks in northwest Pa. without breaking the bank.Townsend sells a pack. We don't have a lot of documentation for civilian. American Rev war packs were often haversack style with two straps. The 'New Pattern' was the same with a strap that went over both deltoids and cross body. Snapsack were simple one strap tubular bags, just a long rectangle folded in half.I have for sale a CVA Bobcat rifle. Factory camo synthetic stock, 26 inch barrel, 1/48 twist. Brass blade front sight and semi buckhorn rear. Overall in very good condition. No rust or pits. Leather sling included. $ 200.00 plus shippingJan 28, 2023. #3. I would heavily recommend you get the Dragoon. The Walker is awesome for its size and the history around it, but that size is exactly what eventually makes it just turn into a PITA to shoot. The Dragoon has all the good parts of the Walker while being significantly handier.Community platform by XenForo ® © 2010-2024 XenForo Ltd. Development and Hosting By: Tech Daddies We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as …10 miles north of Mexico. Mar 9, 2022. #15. Here's a couple of photos of cherry treated with lye. On the left of the test piece is 1 tsp/cup of water. The darker side on the right is 2 tsp/cup. I flooded the wood with solution and let it dry in the sun for 20 minutes.40 Cal. There are many variables to consider when working up a load for any muzzleloading rifle. Bore size, rare of twist, patching material for round ball, powder type, lube for your bullet/patches. all of these things will affect accuracy and the type of powder you use and the best charge to use.For all of your Traditional & Modern Muzzleloader Shooting Accessories! Powder, Ball,ConicalSabot, Patch, Lube, Caps, Flint,Primers, Range rods, Ramrods, Repair parts, Slings, Upgrades, Possibles Bags, Powder horns, Powder Flasks, EVERYTHING that involves accessories or parts for your muzzle loader!Powder, 2 thin "overshot" cards 1 or 2 lubed felt wads, shot load (either in a paper shot cup/cartridge or not), then a thin overshot card. For the Skychief load the order is; powder, thick over powder wad (sometimes referred to as a nitro card), then the shot load, thin overshot card, then a thick fiber "cushion" wad that has been thoroughly ...Feb 12, 2023. #1. I had not been able to find someone (in Oz) who could/would machine the dovetails for the underlugs and sights on my Baker Rifle build and I couldn't find much on-line covering the process so I ended up having a crck at it myself with some pretty basic tools. This is my first ever build so I am very new to this and so I can ...Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French &...This is 80 grains 3F Goex, brown paper, tow and a patched .600" ball, 50 yards rest. This is 85 grains 3F, brown paper, shredded cedar bark, bare ball, cedar bark overshot, 35 yards standing rest. All these targets were shot with a 20-gauge flintlock smoothbore, 46" barrel, front sight only. The seal is the thing. Spence.Step #2. Get familiar with my hunk of wood. Thoroughly wet it with distilled water to: 1) Raise the grain for sanding. 2) Get familiar with the grain. 3) Discover imperfections. SOLANCO, TDM, JT1200R and 1 other person.Hey guys, I tested out a new load for the traditions .54 blunderbuss based on someone's .54 smoothbore hunting load in another thread. I used 60 grains hodgon's triple 7 3f granulation( I don't want to hear it about not using real BP).54 wool wad over powder 80 grains of shot(#6) and a wad over shot At 20 yards the pattern had 30 average hits into what I consider the kill zone.May 8, 2023. #1. After reading the "Terms and Rules" at the bottom of this page I thought I had an understanding of this forum. Because of this there was a discussion in the Unmentionables post where there was a difference of opinion between myself and a couple other members. Apparently there was a thread by Zonie back in 2018 in the "Forum ...10 miles north of Mexico. Mar 9, 2022. #15. Here's a couple of photos of cherry treated with lye. On the left of the test piece is 1 tsp/cup of water. The darker side on the right is 2 tsp/cup. I flooded the wood with solution and let it dry in the sun for 20 minutes.An invoice found in the AFC records for goods sent to the 1834 rendezvous lists "6 steel mounted rifles, Hawken," at $20 each and "10 steel mounted rifles," at $17.50 each. The latter are probably some of the "steel" mounted American pattern rifles that the AFC ordered from JJ Henry based on the listed price.Apr 21, 2004 · 26. Location. Woodlands of Northern New England. Jan 4, 2006. #4. No disrespect intended to Stumpkiller, I'm very big into target shooting and competitive shoots. While target shooting i've had many people come over to watch me with a muzzleloader,try mine and then get into muzzleloading at our club shoots. A 1:48 twist in larger calibers (.45 and up) is generally very finicky in what it will shoot accurately with. Ask any serious Buffalo match or bench rest shooter what the twist is in their rifles. Invariably they will be 1:66; 1:72 or even 1:144.3,489. Reaction score. 4,369. Jan 28, 2021. #1. I recently purchased a Numrich Arms Swivel Barrel rifle (.45). I want to strip finish and brown it. My question is about disassembling the gun. The barrels are held onto the frame by a knurled bolt (?) that uses an allen wrench.Virginia. Jan 13, 2023. #12. Pukka Bundook said: For a tinder lock a short piece for each shot is quite acceptable John. Until you get into the woods for mushrooms that is! A heavy length of match can be kept lit, to light your short pieces as required. pieces 2" or under would make substitute tinder for now.Clothing, Cookware, Crafts For Sale/Wanted/Trade. Reenactment clothing, fabric, patterns, cookware and craft finished products and supplies. No commercial sales. You must have 15 posts AND be a member …I bought a barrel with a factory drum that was sloppy. I went to hardware store, bought a larger tap and matching drill bit, and just drilled the old threads out with an electric drill, going slowly. Then tapped to new size. Came out fine. Cost about $12 and I still have the tools.Shot my Pedersoli Kentucky Kit Rifle today. It's my second trip to a range and my first flintlock. It's .45 cal and I was using 45 gn fffg and a .010 pillow ticking patch shooting from a rest. Lot's of work left but I am happy with the group at 25 yds. Here are pics of the rifle and target...In the cannon you show the breech block is inserted making it a complete gun. The breech block is loaded from the muzzle end. A Ferguson is a good example as a breech loader the ball is inserted into the breech then the powder. This is like a modern cartridge gun as the cartridge does not contain the weapons breech (different than the cannon ...Remove toothpicks and let everything come together. Put greased barrel back in the stock channel. THIS IS A MUST DO. So the barrel channel doesn't get compressed/narrowed/squished by a vise or clamps alone. Bind tightly with a wrap of small rubber hose, electrical tape, etc. that won't stick to wood glue.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.1. You must mention the calibre of the muzzleloading revolver. 2. You must mention the calibre of the muzzleloading revolver - mentioning that it is a nitro conversion - you will NOT be allowed to convert it back to BP. 3. Calibre of muzzleloading pistol - it does not matter how many shots it fires.Trail Minnesota. Apr 8, 2024. #9. at 70 and been doing it for 30 years the muzzleloading season starts the Saturday after thanksgiving up here in the frozen north (nw Minnesota) it wasn't to bad this year about 30 degrees opening nite dropped a 150lb live doe, the kids both bitchn the hole time draggen it.As far as stripping, most of the old bluing was badly worn and almost off. I used progressive papers, 400, 600, 1,000 and 1,500 grit. Degreased with Dawn dish soap and water, rinsed, dried and further degreased with acetone. Applied Van's gun bluing (cold bluing) bought direct from their website.Powder, 2 thin "overshot" cards 1 or 2 lubed felt wads, shot load (either in a paper shot cup/cartridge or not), then a thin overshot card. For the Skychief load the order is; powder, thick over powder wad (sometimes referred to as a nitro card), then the shot load, thin overshot card, then a thick fiber "cushion" wad that has been thoroughly ...Ok, so this pandemic thing finally gave me the time to finish out the CVA 45 cal percussion Kentucky Pistol kit I picked up a while ago. While I have a number of guns, this is my first black powder kit and before I screw something up firing it, I thought it would be prudent to post on here for some advice.Oct 5, 2021 · Similar threads. SOLD - Pending funds PRICE DROP -- Unknown Maker .50 cal. Musket Cap Percussion Rifle.. $375.00 SHIPPED / INSURED!! Offering a very gently used Hatfield percussion rifle in 50 cal. This appears to be one of the earlier guns with a US made barrel and lock. Pull out the wiping stick (ramrod) and pour out the fluid, dry, and oil the bore. Lightly oil all the metal parts, and wipe down the wooden stock. Done. From time to time wipe the stock with something; linseed oil, furniture polish, Marvel Mystery Oil, whatever depending on the type of finish on your rifle stock.Dec 16, 2023 · Patrick Rumora said: There is a huge difference between black powder and smokeless black powder and I want to make a few things clear. 1) Do not try to use any smokeless powders in any type of muzzleloader, UNLESS IT SPECIFIES IT. 2) If you don't understand the difference between black powder and smokeless powders. Then make a cutter along the design of a couple of saw teeth that fit the groove. This can cut the groove deeper and is advanced to the next groove. Then a paper shim is placed under the cutter and the process is repeated till the grooves are deepened to your goal. A slow and labor intensive job but rather simple.Oct 5, 2021 · Similar threads. SOLD - Pending funds PRICE DROP -- Unknown Maker .50 cal. Musket Cap Percussion Rifle.. $375.00 SHIPPED / INSURED!! Offering a very gently used Hatfield percussion rifle in 50 cal. This appears to be one of the earlier guns with a US made barrel and lock. Jan 23, 2022 · For all of your Traditional & Modern Muzzleloader Shooting Accessories! Powder, Ball,ConicalSabot, Patch, Lube, Caps, Flint,Primers, Range rods, Ramrods, Repair parts, Slings, Upgrades, Possibles Bags, Powder horns, Powder Flasks, EVERYTHING that involves accessories or parts for your muzzle loader! Discuss non-smokeless Inline muzzleloading rifles here! This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.They shoot most accuretly if the clearance is .003 or less. That's a pretty snug fit and can be pretty hard to load in a fouled bore. The original Minie' bullet to bore fit could be all over the map and it was usually rather loose so accuracy suffered and for the most part the military didn't care.Percussion Rifles | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account ...391. Reaction score. 0. Oct 25, 2004. #12. Nothing wrong with an inexpensive, budget, frugal-living rifle like the CVA Bobcat or clones. Yeah, the lock isn't the best, and the plastic stocks on the new ones look and feel pretty crummy, and the sights are just plain old ugly. BUT... they're shooters.The subject got on Uberti vs Pietta. He said that Uberti upgraded the factory to modern C&C machining and other "upgrades" to offset labor costs. Once that was complete they retired or laid off most of the skilled labor. While Uberti was making the upgrades, Pietta watched as they were considering similar factory upgrades.Join the discussion on muzzleloading rifles, shotguns, pistols, cartridges, bullets, optics, and more. Find tips, reviews, recipes, photos, videos, and sponsors for muzzleloading enthusiasts.So after 4 years of just casual target shooting with friends, I decided I should get serious and see if I can get a load worked up for my gun and sight it in for big game. Tonight showed me what I knew for four years already! I can't stand the factory sights on my Traditions Shenandoah. Can't...Powder charge. Nitro (hard) card. Shotload. Thin overshot card. Full fiber cushion wad*. *The cushion wad needs to be SATURATED (the wetter and heavier, the better) with oil. I like to use olive oil. The load seems to shine best when used in cylinder bored guns. Best of luck to all, Skychief.Obsidian is a volcanic glass. It tends to shatter like glass. While flint, agate, etc are 7 on Moh's hardness scale, obsidian is only 5. BTW stainless steel is also around 5 on the same scale. A good frizzen may actually be harder than obsidian. When I was studying this, we used a stainless steel watch back to test this.Dec 16, 2023 · Patrick Rumora said: There is a huge difference between black powder and smokeless black powder and I want to make a few things clear. 1) Do not try to use any smokeless powders in any type of muzzleloader, UNLESS IT SPECIFIES IT. 2) If you don't understand the difference between black powder and smokeless powders. Phoenix, AZ. Jan 13, 2017. #14. His experiance with Remington's binding up because of fouling could be due to his shooting a replica of a Remington Beal's. This model of the 1858 was the first version and it was very poor at scraping the …The bullet is a 507 grain, with a single wrap 20# paper patch. The bullet goes down with a small amount of pressure, but not very much. I was shooting at 100 yards with the first shot 2" from the group with the other 4 shots being in a 1 1/4" group. This is the very best I have been able to shoot with this gun.Jun 6, 2008. #11. I received a box of Hornady Great Plains bullets in .58 caliber with a lightly used .58 cal Zouave. When I got to the range I wiped the bore, poured 60 grains of Pyrodex RS down the hole and started the pre lubed bullet. It got about 12 inches down the bore and stopped.Deer Creek Products | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account ...Reaction score. 9,916. Location. Florence Alabama. Feb 22, 2024. #10. I have ordered a lot of B/P from Powder Inc. in the past, all went smoothly. When the shortage hit, I decided to round out my stock with about 10 more # if I could find any Goex. Everyone was sold out except for Crater Fireworks.NorCal | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Spectators | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the …127. Reaction score. 252. Dec 23, 2021. #6. necchi said: With the kit stock as received, lightly wet it, that will enhance the grain appearance. If your stock presents areas of open grain (you'll see it) you could use a light slurry of a bone black agent and sand it back a bit after it dries.It is nice and small and reasonably easy to make. The pattern is drawn on 1" squares. The area above the "dot-dash" to the "dash-dash" can be used in one of two ways. 1) folded under and sewn or 2) separate piece from thinner leather and folded as an edging as can be seen in the first photo.The Apple Store website is down, and purchases are not available on Monday morning. Here's why. By clicking "TRY IT", I agree to receive newsletters and promotions from Money and i...Fred Olsen Cruise Lines on Sunday said its 929-passenger Braemar was at anchor about 25 miles off the coast of Freeport, Bahamas, while diplomatic efforts involving the U.K. govern...Reaction score. 1. Aug 6, 2008. #1. I started out muzzleloading with an inline (sorry) last year. did not take me long to decide I wanted an sidelock. got a deal on an tc new englander. so I took my birthday money and bought it. first range session with it was very short. 3 or 4 shots. then rain started.Concrete nails are easily found at your local hardware store. Heat to a bright red color and allow to cool slowly (softens the hardened concrete nail), shape with a hammer and/or files, heat to a bright cherry red and quench in oil or water, temper in your (toaster) oven at 375-400F for an hour and do a final sharpening.1,303. Location. Vermont. Apr 7, 2024. #1. One of the things I find so intriguing/ adicting about muzzleloader shooting is how critical each shot is. With unmentionables when you miss its its easy to rip off rappid fire makeup shots. With the muzzel loader when you miss its a done deal. I find this especially obvious when shooting steel.Sidelock/Traditional Muzzleloading. Talk about Sidelock muzzleloading rifles and shotguns here!Dec 20, 2022. #12. I bought a Sitting Fox Pennsylvania in .54 cal smoothbore. It was my third kit, the first two were Dixie. They have good quality parts, but the kit needs work, and you must have tools. Mine is iron mounted, single trigger, straight barrel, and I browned everything. It has been very reliable.Jan 8, 2023. #1. Making a Powder Horn, Part 2- Scrimshaw. Today I have the borders all done and ready to do my panels and more. After five hours though, it was time to quit for the day. Decorating a Powder Horn is really an individual's own choice.179. Location. Texas. May 8, 2020. #1. These precision made tools are the preferred way to cone the muzzles of roundball guns either rifled or smoothbore. Greatly eases starting the ball and the long cone allows the ball to be gently swaged into the bore without damage. I believe accuracy is unchanged.Ok I got a good old cva st.louis hawken in 54. I used to hunt elk with it. The load I used was 90 grains of rs and a cast 380 grain real bullet.do to bad neck and back I can no longer shoot this load. So I was thinking using it on deer with a round ball. Most shots at black tail deer here or...Hi, I will occasionally post photos and descriptions of my work on a Chambers Little Fella's rifle kit I am building for Rifleman1776. Frank wants a small light rifle and this kit should fill the bill. Despite building >60 muzzleloaders over the years, I've only built one kit gun. That was a Navy Arms 1863 Springfield musket.Jul 31, 2020 · Hunt Talk is a website for hunting enthusiasts to share tips, stories, and questions. The Muzzleloaders forum is a section for discussing muzzleloader equipment, loads, and hunting experiences. However, it does not match the query muzzleloadingforum.com, which is a different website. 7,789. Nov 21, 2023. #1. Any other subscribers to Muzzleloader magazine that haven't gotten the Nov/Dec issue yet? I know various things may delay production of a specialty magazine, but just wondered as it's getting to the end of Nov. soon. My local newsstand still has the Sep/Oct issue on display, also.The lock on the Pedersoli Besses are the style used on pattern 1756 and 1769 Besses with the wrong markings. It shows only one screw hole behind the flintcock because it has a long sear spring. Later Bess locks showed 2 screws because they shortened the sear spring and they added a hole to the top jaw screw.54 Cal. You're right in saying that you will have to experiment with your gun to find out for sure. Most of my .54's do fine for deer with .530 roundball in .015 patch over 80 grains of 3f Swiss. However, I do have one .54 that prefers a 425 grain Great Plains bullet and 100 grains of 2f.1. You must mention the calibre of the muzzleloading revolver. 2. You must mention the calibre of the muzzleloading revolver - mentioning that it is a nitro conversion - you will NOT be allowed to convert it back to BP. 3. Calibre of muzzleloading pistol - it does not matter how many shots it fires.Apr 24, 2005. #4. Use only pure lead conicals and do not push them real hard and your leading should not be a major problem. Even in the modern muzzleloaders when I shoot big conicals, I seldom go past 85 grains of powder. This is for accuracy, recoil as well as to reduce leading.Location. People's Republic of Maryland. Nov 17, 2014. #3. A Report published in 2003 compared WANO and Scheutzen to an "improved" version of GOEX that appeared in 2001. The report detailed how in 1993, when WANO made its debut, it was poor powder. However by 2002, it had improved, and was almost as powerful as GOEX.Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French &...I like the fact that they have a hole cross drilled horizontally in the area where the cap sits. These hole direct the blow back gases outward and help split the cap for easy removal. My other choice of nipples would be the Knight "Red Hot". Both nipples come in sizes to fit your rifles. Best of luck.1. Jun 28, 2010. #7. There's a video on youtube of the guy from the hunting show "Kentucky Afield" that gets a deer with a bounty hunter pistol like the pedersoli one and he got a doe at 25 yards with one and 55 grains of powder. It's a really interesting video. D.
Pedersoli makes a very strong barrel. Having said that, I would. join in with Musketeer and cap the loads at the 100 grain limit or equal with pellets/powder. Triple 7, 50-60 grains. The actual load you will get to by working up to with targets, so. adjust yourself based upon results.. Porn nude pic
The one I think I'm most attracted to is the Clay Smith kit. NW Trade Gun. A number of options. One that is attractive, from a skill level perspective, is the Pedersoli NW kit. Kibler Colonial. A no brainer build, and quality parts. For the moment, let's disregard caliber. Weight is one consideration.Jan 2, 2022. #5. I have a Traditions Kentucky rifle I built from a kit. I'm happy with it. But when you say it will mainly be a wall hanger it makes me think you might want to look at the Traditions Mountain rifle. I just bought one and it's really a good looking gun with the brown CeraKote barrel, trigger guard and butt plate and silver patch ...Jan 11, 2020. #34. I have a TC Hawken that i fit an L&R flintlock to, then added a GM 62 Cal smooth barrel rifled by Mr. Rayl. The open sights would not stay in focus so I removed the rear sight and installed a Skinner Sights lo pro peep in the screw hole by the hammer.1,161. Nov 20, 2023. #1. Today I received a call from Shiloh Sharps that my percussion 1863 Shiloh Sharps was ready for shipping. However, they said that it had to be shipped to an FFL. When I asked whose rules this was, eventually the lady said it was UPS's rules. I said you could ship through USPS and she said, "If that was an option we would ...Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the …i have a Green Mountain .40 caliber drop in barrel for a TC Hawken or Renagade 1 inch frame. barrel is MINT i do not have a bore light but can look with flashlight and see it is very crisp and clean. length is 33 inches and fits both Hawken and Renegade frame. asking $350 shipped will include new syn ram rod. always up for a good trade.Help Support Muzzleloading Forum: This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.Jan 9, 2022. #2. 1075 = 10 3/4. Intermediate cap size so it is good for both 10 and 11 nipples. A little hotter than CCI. Good all-around cap. I bought a box of RWS caps last fall, sold by Back Creek. N-SSA shooters use them. A friend, retired N-SSA shooter, uses the RWS wingless musket caps too.Apr 21, 2024 ... Well, the Palmetto Sharpshooters (N-SSA) shot in a small match and had a ball. Smoothbore and Carbine then break for lunch and then into the ...Jul 12, 2023 · Reaction score. 56. Location. New York. Jul 12, 2023. #1. Picked up a traditions .54 cal blunderbuss kit 6 months ago as my first smokepole and have had a great time developing loads. You'd be surprised how good some of the patterns are. These would likely work in another .54 smoothie or 28 gauge. Jul 12, 2023 · Reaction score. 56. Location. New York. Jul 12, 2023. #1. Picked up a traditions .54 cal blunderbuss kit 6 months ago as my first smokepole and have had a great time developing loads. You'd be surprised how good some of the patterns are. These would likely work in another .54 smoothie or 28 gauge. Ok I got a good old cva st.louis hawken in 54. I used to hunt elk with it. The load I used was 90 grains of rs and a cast 380 grain real bullet.do to bad neck and back I can no longer shoot this load. So I was thinking using it on deer with a round ball. Most shots at black tail deer here or...Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.The .36 will hold up better in a breeze and will give you about 25 yards more range. For squirrel hunting, I like the .32 for when the leaves are still on the trees and shots are usually inside of 35 yards. I switch to a .36 after the leaves drop cause the shots tend to be longer and I also combine squirrel hunting with coyote calling.Apr 30, 2018 · Mar 1, 2024. AZ Muzzleloaders posted the thread FOR SALE 54 Caliber Custom Hawken. Built from TOTW Parts Set, Curly Maple in Firearms For Sale/Trade/Wanted . Built about 1986 from a Track of the Wolf parts set. Barrel measures 32 1/4" x 1" (actual 0.985"), 1:66 rate of twist. Oct 6, 2009. Messages. 1,654. Reaction score. 8. Jan 20, 2010. #3. the pitch on long range target rifles is much faster than anything in the inline market. gibbs rifles are 1-18" , the whitworths can be anywhere from 1-18" to 1-21" (my euroarms whitworth is 1-18") and the alex henry rifled volunteers are 1-22".I've never shot one of those .58 cal rifles before. Well, first, the Buffalo Hunter's not a musket nor an accurate copy of any military-issued firearm that I know of. Short barrel, crude sights, etc. It was a creation of Val Forget of Navy Arms to fill a market niche and precision target shooting at long range was not "it".With conicals, You can go a bit slower than 1:48 and still stabilize some longer bullets. But, either paper patched bullets in shallow grooves must be used, nor a good base wad to seal the gases behind the bullet needs to be used so that you can get the velocity needed to stabilize these longer bullets in flight..